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 Certain people get aroused by violent images too.  Pyromaniacs get aroused by fire so theoretically that means ALL pictures that give some type of arousal to any one person should be banned  This is most certainly the American Way

Should there be a line drawn?  I think it takes a great talent to seduce through art.  I am not into pornography (I have no problems with people who are, as long as it’s not something that would make me cry AKA child porn, bestiality, necrophilia’s etc)  I think it  shows strong talent to tantalize ones thoughts through one image, if that's what the artist intends.

Great responses everyone

killerwasp said...

Certain people get aroused by violent images too.  Pyromaniacs get aroused by fire so theoretically that means ALL pictures that give some type of arousal to any one person should be banned  This is most certainly the American Way

My taste buds get aroused when I see pictures of culinary delights. It's an orgasm in my mouth.

I love your responses. I hadn't thought of pyromaniacs and the like before, and their views on arousal. It brings up a good point, that different people are aroused by very different things. Sometimes it's a foot, a knee, a breast, or someone getting reamed on the hood of a car.

caviar32 said...

Should there be a line drawn?  I think it takes a great talent to seduce through art.  I am not into pornography (I have no problems with people who are, as long as it’s not something that would make me cry AKA child porn, bestiality, necrophilia’s etc)  I think it  shows strong talent to tantalize ones thoughts through one image, if that's what the artist intends.

I'm not sure whether or not there should be a line drawn. Generally porn is accepted so long as no one is hurt by it, which is one of the reasons why child pornography is banned, along with snuff films and the like. Then there's the counter-argument that everybody is hurt by porn. I don't have much of an opinion on it, porn's just not very interesting to me.

Then again, you see campaigns using people's curiosity towards things they're not allowed to see against them. Look at the 70's film, "Snuff". It was marketed as if it were an actual snuff film, the distributor hiring protestors to picket movie showings until Women Against Pornography staged real protests. Then the movie and protests recieved coverage from CBS. Very funny.

elfus said...

It seems logical that sex acts should be considered pornography and anything else art . But taste should also be taken into consideration , there is tastefull and then there is vulgarity , common sense should dictate which is which ...

Good point, but that's just the rub of it, sex is often times very illogical. I guess that's why it's such a hot topic with humanity. It's strange because it would make sense that sex equates to pornography, yet on there are famous works of art depicting the events leading up to sex or the act itself that are displayed quite publicly. Giambologna's Rape of the Sabine Woman is a good example of this, along with The Rape of Polyxena by Fedi [interestingly both are housed in the same building as the four virtues.] We see the same with part two of the Kama Sutra, which is a practical text on human relationships and sexuality. Even school textbooks depict sterilized depictions and explanations of sex, but are not considered pornography because they're informative.

elfus said...

But like in movies on the big screen , what is the point to create sexualy explicit acts in art when you have so much porn on the internet these days .

I think it's to entertain the general masses, even G movies sometimes throw in a veiled sexual reference that goes over kid's heads. Still, it reminds me of that hella long sex scene in the Watchmen. Was boring and awkward to sit through that. I kind of got over porn on the Internet when my childhood was killed ten times over. Now it's a party game.

I dont do nudes , not my thing . I'm a gear head , i like detail with lots of " stuff " on my characters and figurines .The dragons are naked though lol. The nudes that I have made are between me and my gf and never will be seen by others . I have seen many very good nudes that were done  in a tastefull manor that I would hang in my house but like you said above , the market is tough and therefore all the artwork I do are things that could be displayed or sold without difficulty as well as being my subject interests .

I agree completely

 A quick answer. And I have worked with fashion designers,  if you don't know the human form you will have problems making them look right clothes or not. lol . Most classically trained designers ( and artists )  have experience drawing nude models.

Micpowell says 

In short I don't know the answer and I don't think anybody else does, all the more reason to study the subject as an unknown knowable. What are my guidelines, sex to me is still private but sexuality is one of the greatest wonders of life!

It took that long to cut to the chase ?

I have seen some of your nudes that you put up . They are very tastefull and definatlely not offensive .

 I think Nude Art is Pornographic in general, but many Artist may disagree with that. Most(not all) of the so-called Artistic Nudes I see always have a woman looking all sexy and provocative which would arouse anybody.  I guess it's not Pornographic until a penis is thrown in the mix with a Vagina.

PatsyC says ...

Esaias says ...

 I think Nude Art is Pornographic in general, but many Artist may disagree with that. Most(not all) of the so-called Artistic Nudes I see always have a woman looking all sexy and provocative which would arouse anybody.  I guess it's not Pornographic until a penis is thrown in the mix with a Vagina.

 So... I guess you would be one to say I have no morals. So be it, I can live with that. Nudes in my opinion are beautiful whether they are a man or a woman.

 

I wouldn't say that you have no morals, I'd just say Pornography is Art too and move on.

elfus says ...

Micpowell says 

In short I don't know the answer and I don't think anybody else does, all the more reason to study the subject as an unknown knowable. What are my guidelines, sex to me is still private but sexuality is one of the greatest wonders of life!

It took that long to cut to the chase ?

Don't fall for the hype Tracy. Just another elitist know it all. Guess they weren't all in Paki-land last week ROFLMAO

Giovanni says ...

Esaias says ...

 I think Nude Art is Pornographic in general, but many Artist may disagree with that. Most(not all) of the so-called Artistic Nudes I see always have a woman looking all sexy and provocative which would arouse anybody.  I guess it's not Pornographic until a penis is thrown in the mix with a Vagina.

And I know which one you would fixate on...LOL People like you ruined ab.

 

How have I or people like me ruin ab? explain yourself instead of talking silly.

You got a guy without internet 

 I don't know why I bothered replying to this thread, because there's only assholes in here. Being aroused doesn't only mean your penis gets erected., and even if it did get erected how does that mean your penis is small? stop being silly. All you internet people are the same, you can't respect an opinion and then pop a lot of shit that you wouldn't dare do out in the real world because you're cowards. If you disagree with my "OPINION" that's fine, but keep it respectful and go fuck yourself.

 I'm not in the same boat.

Who doesn't have problems?... Anyways I wasn't talking about paintings, I was referring to Photography, so maybe I was off from the beginning. Didn't realize we were talking about paintings here people my fault. Let me also add that I have never been aroused by a painting in case any silly people were wondering.