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Obama ‘Hope’ Artist Controversy Deepens

Associated Press/AP Online via Yellowbrix

November 11, 2009

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Shepard Fairey AP Photo/Damian Dovarganes, File


New York, NY – Shepard Fairey has a new legal team and new questions he must answer.

The street artist known for his Barack Obama “HOPE” image will be permitted to switch attorneys in his copyright fight against The Associated Press, a federal judge ruled Tuesday. Fairey’s previous lawyers had sought to withdraw from the case after Fairey contended he had erred about which AP photo he used as the basis for “HOPE” and then tried to destroy evidence of what he claimed was his mistake.

The AP had asked U.S. District Judge Alvin K. Hellerstein to deny the switch, saying that Fairey’s attorneys had “unique knowledge” about Fairey’s actions and that the change would cause “undue delay” and bring additional expenses for the not-for-profit news organization.


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    burning13stars

    2 months ago

    6 comments

    I'm not going to get into politics on this. I understand peoples needs to voice their opinions, but I don't care to hear them currently, nor wish to voice mine. As for the question at stake.

    I think that the artist has transformed this into his own and it doesn't look like the AP photo. And seriously, I'm sure there is plenty of images from different photogs with similar positions of Obama. So should the AP sue them too??

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    cynderella

    2 months ago

    4 comments

    Who would even want a poster of Obama, and an ugly one at that? Good grief, there a lot better subjects to draw from than that and if he had done that, he wouldn't be facing a lawsuit now. Obama does NOT offer hope to this nation. The fact that he's black does, because it represents that this is not a prejudice nation, but I have to wonder if "reverse" prejudice is what got him elected into office to begin with. I think that it's appropriate that this poster represents socialism with its style (even if it's not truly in the style of Marxist art)...because I believe that's exactly where Obama is leading this nation. And I find it sad that we, as a people, even want that or, at the very least, choose to blind ourselves to Obama's agenda.

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    jahha

    2 months ago

    108 comments

    ah Simon U are a dead give away with your own sarcasm tsk tsk

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    Simon9

    2 months ago

    16 comments

    It's too easy to inject attitudes about President Obama into a discussion which really isn't political. So let's keep it serious.

    However, I do wonder if using that posterized style was a deliberate reference to the Soviet Style school of Marxist art from the 30's as earlier alleged. I like to think not as that only reinforces what a growing number of Americans perceive about Obama's politics.

    Personally, I think it reminiscent of the KFC school of art and the portrait of Col. Sanders that decorates every box. Now there's a great American everybody can get behind. Except vegetarians. I doubt they would.

    And before anybody even thinks it, I am NOT making any connection between the first African American in the White House and fried chicken. Because it's a racist bad joke. I know you were thinking it. Stop it. That wasn't my intent.

    He and Michelle probably prefer Popeye's anyway....

    Simon9

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    CaptChristopher

    2 months ago

    24 comments

    No matter how one views this case, Obama is bad medicine!

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    Hungristartist

    2 months ago

    78 comments

    A slap on the wrist for lying will make him the "poster child" for not giving credit where credit is due...

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    Paintingchicks

    2 months ago

    2 comments

    There have been a thousand images like this one taken while Obama was out campaigning. The original photo is nothing special, it's what the graphic artist did with it in photo shop.

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    Designer_BirdKW09

    2 months ago

    4 comments

    As an artist myself, if a photo is legitimately a political poster, and said photo is used as a completely different peice, then they can legitly claim it as their own. But it's MUCH safer to drastically change or create something Different, instead of using a photo.

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    Designer_BirdKW09

    2 months ago

    4 comments

    Honestly, I hope the AP would show a little bit of leniency toward this guy and just give him the rights to the poster, it's not like it's going to hurt them in the long run, and it would give an inspiring artist a chance to succeed and support himself.

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    Account Removed

    2 months ago

    ANDY WARHOL DID NOT STEAL PHOTOGRAPHIC IMAGES? Sure he did Campbell soup to name one.

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    thegreymirror

    2 months ago

    12 comments

    Shepard Fairey is a D bag.

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    karmascenic

    2 months ago

    380 comments

    ok on another note this was done one of two ways (not sure which he used) 1 silk screen from a photo or 2 digital tri tone of one technique or another from a photo. There is a tiny possibility of someone painting that but I doubt it. I believe that it is either option 1 or 2. So the question then is to all you people can I make tee shirts, posters, license plates, stickers, etc. from your photos by one of these two methods? How would you feel? I know artists that this has happened to. The fact is the usage license of that photo is for sale, this artist could have and should have paid to license that photo plain and simple. I just last week found a photo that another photographer and I shot for a magazine article reused and picked up by aol. They had permission to quote the article but did not license the photo. We contacted them they did not wish to pay and took the photo down. This was an amicable solution. If you are a journalism photographer you make your tiny amount of money by news sources licensing your photos. That's how the business model is set up that's how it works. He could have paid a few hundred bucks up front and now it will cost him a portion of his earnings. Just ask yourself what if it was your photo. Now if it was painted then some of you are correct the law generally allows that but it's a fine line. There are other loop holes and this artist may sneak through one but the fact remains if you use someone else’s artwork and they can tell it was theirs you should get permission or license.

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    karmascenic

    2 months ago

    380 comments

    this has probably been said but how ironic AP sends a photographer to shoot a picture of a guy that they are suing for stealing a picture they shot. You would have thought they could have worked out a trade deal right there.

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    Stencil

    2 months ago

    4 comments

    Just arguing with myself here. My apologies, my dialogue is fairly longwinded but I wanted to share my thoughts.
    I can see how he changed it and how photo itself is not that unique. That said, you really aren't supposed to take editorial photos and use them for commercial purposes. Was Obama compensated in any way for his photo? I think not, and unless he gave anyone exclusive right to use his image in a commercial sense it shouldn't have been used that way.
    However, the AP shouldn't have copyright complaint, as I understand, they are a non-profit that freely provides news/photos for other news outlets. And I might agree with Fairey if he had done one painting to express his political views. I would consider that a sort of abstracted but legitimate editorial use. An artist (jerk or otherwise) deserves freedom of expression. Nevertheless, he capitalized on those posters blatantly and clearly used them for profit. I personally think that nullifies any claims in the areas of freedom of expression.
    In addition, I don't think fair use applies here. Fair use, as I understand, is a protection to use a small snippet of work for a larger work or for journalistic purposes. (He might also have been right to use it if it was some sort of parody of Obama.) I'd also like to add that genuine artists and businessmen take great care in making sure that they are allowed to use even those little snippets I spoke of. And yet, not all people realize those journalistic type rules. I would say drop the suit against him if he quit selling the posters once he realized he’d made a mistake. And I think that he realized that long ago.

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    marcarch

    2 months ago

    18 comments

    i would be interested to know if Warhol actually paid AP or other when he did the car crash series or the electric chair. those are more appropriate examples to this issue. he did exactly the same process as Fairey in those. in which case, AP may want to go after everyone that has 're-used' one of their photos, like Rauschenberg, etc......Garcia was paid well enough to take a picture. and the photo was published world wide, would be very difficult to find all cases or 're-use' , dont you think. in high school art in the 60's i did the same thing with an AP photo from the Vietnam War. Unfortunately, i didnt make a bundle of money from it. there in lies the real issue.

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